This is how the controversy surrounding Dynamo fans and the problem of violence went
How to prevent rampage in Dynamo games? Saxony’s interior minister wants a discussion about personal tickets and fireworks. But without proponents willingness to change, it just won’t work.
Dresden. The five participants discussed the topic “Dynamo Lovers and the Problem of Violence” for about two hours, and at the end they were allowed to formulate a wish for one of their neighbors on the podium at Dresden’s Pink Hotel. Most of them wished that the dialogue that had just begun would continue – with an open front.
This formula popped up again and again on Wednesday night. “It took long enough,” said Dresden Police Chief Lutz Roedig. “But now we have to talk about everything without prejudice,” he demanded, “and there must be no ban on reasoning, and there must be a truly honest dialogue.” The Minister of the Interior of Saxony, Armin Schuster, added very specific points to this request: “There should be an open discussion about personal tickets, about fireworks, about swear words like bull pigs,” he demanded.
Schuster raises the debate over personal tickets
Invitational group discussion launched by Sächsische Zeitung and Sächsische.de as well as new forms of conversation between participants Incidents at the Dynamo away match at Bayreuth on 1 October. But the view goes back even further – especially to Riots around the May 16, 2021 promotion game against Türkgücü Munich, When 185 officers were injured in front of Rudolf Harbig Stadium.
In light of the video images, Dresden Police Chief Lutz Roedig spoke of “circumstances a bit like a civil war” and mentioned the successes of the Soko-Huptali investigation: the Public Prosecutor’s Office issued 180 criminal charges or orders, so far there have been 64. final convictions. “We believe the investigation will be completed by the middle of the year,” he added.
Schuster made clear how poor the club’s national image was. His teammates regularly ask him about the dynamo – not about sports scores. The federation is a topic in conferences of interior ministers and sports ministers. “My feeling is this: if we don’t get the curve here, then others will, then others will step in. The German Federation hasn’t even pulled out the big cutlery yet, ”the CDU politician explained and brought personalized tickets without specifically asking for them to be presented.
“They don’t pose a threat. And what’s so bad about them anyway? The club will have to invest, but on the other hand it will probably save the DFB fines, which have been much higher in recent times.”
One-way tickets are on sale again
Danny Graubner of Black and Yellow Help, who advises Dynamo supporters in disputes with the judiciary, is skeptical of such an effect. In his opinion, personal tickets have been around for a long time, because you can hardly buy any without ID – neither online nor at stadium ticket offices. But at the entrances, tickets and the name of the visitor to the stadium have not yet been compared.
Dynamo managing director Jürgen Weiland announced a change for the away matches: After the events in Bayreuth, tickets were sold only to members, from the match on January 22 at VfB Oldenburg will be put up for sale again. Wehlend noted the close exchange with their supporters. “We regularly sit with them at a table. There is something going on in many places that has not yet been seen in public,” he explained, but also stated: “As a club, we can’t solve it alone. The main question will be: Can we really get the fans involved?”
Change only works with fans
“All changes can only be made with the masses. If they don’t stand behind it, it won’t work,” Police Chief Rudige said in the same vein.
Something happened after Bayreuth, not only Wellend pointed out, but also Ronald Bey, head of the Dresden Fan Project, in reference to the meeting of fans in the Dresden cinema and the joint statement in which the riots were harshly criticized. But you shouldn’t fool yourself either, Beck warned. “You can’t turn it off completely. That would be unrealistic. But you can reduce the likelihood of such incidents occurring.”
And this is possible only through dialogue – with an open mouthpiece.
The whole discussion is in the video:
- Interior Minister of Saxony Armin Schuster
- Jurgen Welland, Managing Director of Dynamo Dresden
- Dresden Police Chief Lutz Roedig
- Ronald B., Head of the Dresden Fan Project
- Danny Graupner from Black and Yellow Help.